Fix one thing break another !!!!

billledger

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ok ... mag problem is fixed. thanks for all the help. An AI from the local school on our airport (which teaches a&P) help Tim repair while we were at the longhorn / Rice game in Austin. After I didn't here from him hours after I thought I should I made the call. Expecting to here the bad news about the used mag that is not going to work .... I was delightfully please when he said he had it working 40 minutes after I left and it was running like a dream. I was excited .. that is the news I wanted to here. I asked him why he did not call me and he informed me that the engine was great but still had a little problem. He went on to explain that the left wing got a little hanger rash. he went on to expain how some how his foot slipped off the breaks and he ran into the hanger door. I was in shock and grimacing.
Now I have a big ding in my wing it hit between the ribs 2' from the end. So now I need to fix this dammage... it doesn't look to bad but any help in the process of this repair is appriciated. The AI that did the dammage says he knows how, and is going to repair the dammage I would like to understand how to fix so I would have more confidence that it is being done correctly.

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FAA AC43 is the guideline. This should be easily fixable with a piece of a/c plywood, a couple sticks of spruce, some glue, dope and fabric and some common sense and TLC. BTW it is apparent that some Texans need to pay more attention to maintenance and aviating and less to those g/d football games.
 
I am an LSU fan .... my wife is a Longhorn fan. I HAD TO GO!!!!. I would have never imagined an AI making such a rookie mistake. but I think it will be fixed in the next 10 days. then I have to match the paint .... I don’t think a perfect match is possible … especially the pin striping. But at least it has been educational. :?
~Bill

My varieze will be out of the paint shop this week (fingers crossed) so maybe Ill have something to play with this weekend!!!
 
My two cents, as an A&P and IA ,just working on this crap is a risk. There is and always the unexpected **** happens. If your upset with the man doing the work then do it yourself. Won't be long and you will be on your second slice of humble pie. Never ceases to amaze me that people think working on airplanes is easy. Lynn the crate :D
 
Dan Cullman said:
Stay away from deep stalls in that aircraft. They are about 80% fatal. Trade it for a Cub or Champ!

would be interested in reading any info you have on that statistic as the more educated the pilot the safer the aircraft.

I like so many different airplanes I feel like I need a fleet sometimes. But since I don't have that sort of budget I have 2 fun aircraft. 1956 Bellanca CruiseAir (4 place ... can go slow but has an ok cruise .. gets lots of attention after landing, has great flight and landing characteristics.
and Varieze (2place) which I can fly at 170 mph on about 5 gph, also gets alot of attention, greeser landings but long ones, 20 - 1 glide ratio.
and I can use the EAA Plane (aronica Champ) for low and slow.

I do like a cub or champ. I flew the aronica last week. I also Like gong 170 mph on about 5 gph. I have only heard good thing about the varieze stalls. although i have read that it can get into a deep stall with extreme aft cg. I believe that as long as you stay within proper weight and balance it has better stall characteristics than most all aircraft. I have some info that follows if interested.

INFO ON VARIEZE deep stalls: http://www.berkutengineering.com/pages/articles/news_art_kitplanes.html

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The original premise behind the canard airplane wasn't to have people stand in awe at the sight of a row of odd-looking, awkwardly parked aircraft. No, the main reason for these designs was to design an aircraft that did not stall as conventional aircraft do, and also to use the canard's aerodynamic strengths to increase performance. Because safety is always first in most pilots' minds, and since a canard airplane's main wing doesn't stall, the canard airplane won't spin, making all who fly in them breathe easier.

The canard airplane does this via aerodynamics and geometry. The canard wing is the horizontal stabilizer and elevator mounted up front. Its airfoil, and the angle of incidence at which the canard is mounted, determine the critical angle of attack, or stall speed of the canard wing. This is all set so the canard stalls before the main wing does. For example, when the nose of the aircraft is pitched up and reaches the canard's critical angle of attack, it will stall while the main wing is still flying. At the stall, the canard's elevator no longer produces pitch input, so pulling back on the stick does nothing. The nose then drops slightly, which reattaches flow to the elevator.

Keeping the stick back starts a safe, stable, rocking-horse motion where the nose of the aircraft bobs up and down slightly, but the main wing never stalls. But there can be problems. Some pilots cite the canard' s potential to enter a deep stall as a major fault of these aircraft and a reason to never fly in one. A deep stall is a non-recoverable stall of the main wing. How can this occur in a canard aircraft if the canard stalls first and there is no elevator authority to continue to the nose-up attitude? The answer is to load the aircraft aft of its critical c.g.

Early Long-EZs using an 0-320 or O-360 have to watch the flight envelope carefully, and weight often must be added in the nose. This is why EZs and other related tandem canard aircraft are flown solo from the front seat. But deep stalls are not just limited to canard airplanes. Conventional aircraft are subject to similar unrecoverable modes when loaded with a too-far-aft c.g.
 
I'm not going to belabor this topic. Make your own choices in life. The Eaa published a couple articles about 15 years ago on the canard's deep stall problems. The airplane can be loaded within published cg limits and during 'radical' manuevering will enter a deep stall. I've lost two friends in these airplanes. One in a Berkut and another, who was a Bellanca Cruisemaster owner, in Longeze.
 
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